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I am a new Directv subscriber in the NYC metro area and they only activate the East coast CBS HD channel for me but before I call Directv I just wanted to find out if anyone has both East & West.

Also if you do have both feeds can you let us know how to get Directv to activate both?

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You can get both, but you have to be out-of-market to the closet broadcast station, i.e., way out in the country. If you are in NYC, you'll only get CBS-East.

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I have CBS E&W in HD, and SD as well. I live in the middle of nowhere.

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I get both, but I live in the middle of Ohio! :) Which is basically nowhere.

Actually, you can live in Manhattan and as long as the station gives you a waiver, you are good to go.

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Take a look at http://directv.com/see/landing/cbs_hd.html - you will only get the east coast feed.
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I called and had D*** turn on CBS east feed.
I live in Boston and the local CBS station is owned and operated by CBS itself and this allows D*** to give me the East Coast feed only.
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You know, with the advent of VoIP it would be relatively easy, I would think, to pick a geographic to fake a physical move to in order to by-pass required waivers for national feeds. I need to look into this and see what the chances of success are. Hmm.
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You know, with the advent of VoIP it would be relatively easy, I would think, to pick a geographic to fake a physical move to in order to by-pass required waivers for national feeds. I need to look into this and see what the chances of success are. Hmm.
I remember ssing a very detailed thread on just this subject. It may have been on Sat Guys. Bottom line is your chances of success are very good.

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And it wouldn't take more than a single month's worth of VoIP, which can be as little as $10. I think I'm going to have to try this soon.
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What does VOiP has to do with this? Get a middle of nowhere phone number?
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If you are in an O&O (like Boston mentioned above) what's the rationale of CBS not allowing both NY and LA O&O feeds? Even if theoretically your viewing time is split 50/50 between the 2, what is the downside? Your viewership of CBS O&O programming may be higher, but could never be lower if you had both feeds.
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But say you are on the West Coast and you just want to get the programs 3 hours earlier, will they let you buy the East Coast Feed?

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Is there anyone in NY that is currently watching the West coast feed of CBS. Has anyone received a waiver for the West Coast feed or is it totally forbidden?

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You know, with the advent of VoIP it would be relatively easy, I would think, to pick a geographic to fake a physical move to in order to by-pass required waivers for national feeds. I need to look into this and see what the chances of success are. Hmm.
There's the MYTH again!!! DirecTV bases your location on the ADDRESS you give them. Your phone number has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

If your address says, "East Nowhere, Texas" then that's where you live and that determines your eligibility, PERIOD.
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So, I setup a paperless bill since I pay with CC. Create an address convenient to the new telephone number's apparent location, and work from there?
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Your forget about credit cards have billing addresses.
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I have not forgotten about this, and my billing address for the CC I use is a POB, which DirecTV happily accepted. Do you really think that if a CC-paying existing customer calls up and says they're moving that D* is going to close their account and re-open a new one post-move? I know this ain't the case, because before learning about the Customer Retention department D* did everything under the sun to accomodate me in my last move (not really move, but that was the story for cancelation purposes). They were even will to wait out a purported 6-month overseas in order to keep the account not-closed.

Additionally, I could give whatever address to my CC as an additional address and D* would not be the wiser.
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Don't pay by CC. Use your bank to pay all bills via web, such as Fleet.

By the way I have both NBC and ABC East/ West coast feeds. CBS won't budge. Really stupid. Sometimes I forget to record a program and can fall back for West coast feed using my Tivo.

Does anybody know if all locals are directional? Can one give them an address in another city and get their locals to watch that cities football team withou buying ST?

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Don't pay by CC. Use your bank to pay all bills via web, such as Fleet.

By the way I have both NBC and ABC East/ West coast feeds. CBS won't budge. Really stupid. Sometimes I forget to record a program and can fall back for West coast feed using my Tivo.

Does anybody know if all locals are directional? Can one give them an address in another city and get their locals to watch that cities football team without buying ST?

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Don, why can't I pay by CC?
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Billing address and service address do not have to agree.

I still maintain that a waiver from any station that you are local to will allow you to receive both feeds.

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Just so that I understand, "I still maintain that a waiver from any station that you are local to will allow you to receive both feeds." are you saying that a waiver, for say my local CBS, should get me both CBS national feeds, or that a) a waiver from any CBS station should get both national feeds, or b) a waiver from any chanel and not necessarily CBS will get me both CBS national feeds?
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I got a waiver from CBS and ABC stations in Portland, Oregon. It is because their channels are 6 (CBS) and 2 (ABC) and they have low power and therefore poor reception. I get both CBS and ABC feeds from NY and LA. I couldn't get a waiver from NBC ch.8 or Fox ch.12 because their signals are much stronger.

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I have a waiver in the Philly market and have CBS east and west including the HD's.
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I live 5 miles from Providence in MA and I get both feeds. I pay an extra buck for it.
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So I guess the question now is how to go about getting a waiver from my local CBS (New York) station so that I can the West Coast CBS HD feed?
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You contact your satellite provider and ask for a Distant Network Waiver. They'll submit it FOR you. Or you can contact WCBS and beg. But the odds are rather slim. Stations are only supposed to grant waivers for local viewers who really can't get their ANALOG signals, very well. Some make exceptions, some are ridiculously strict. You might try asking around on one of the NYC threads in the Local HDTV forum to see if anyone's had any success.

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