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Blu-ray Laser Lens Cleaner

Has anyone tried using




I have owned my Oppo93 for a few years now. It works perfectly. But who knows maybe dust has settled on the lens and it needs cleaning????

Worth trying? Or is it garbage??

Any thoughts???

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I decided to call Oppo to see what they say regards to this type of cleaner for their players.

I was very surprised. They recommend the lazer lens cleaners. I asked if they has a preference? I was told the Memorex cleaner only because it was around $10 vs the others that were about $20.

He also mentioned that some of the cleaners only work for about 30 seconds and told me to go ahead and run it 4, 5, 6 times.


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Has anyone tried using




I have owned my Oppo93 for a few years now. It works perfectly. But who knows maybe dust has settled on the lens and it needs cleaning????

Worth trying? Or is it garbage??

Any thoughts???

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I decided to call Oppo to see what they say regards to this type of cleaner for their players.

I was very surprised. They recommend the lazer lens cleaners. I asked if they has a preference? I was told the Memorex cleaner only because it was around $10 vs the others that were about $20.

He also mentioned that some of the cleaners only work for about 30 seconds and told me to go ahead and run it 4, 5, 6 times.


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Good question as I have never used or even thought about cleaning the actual BD players. However I do clean the disc prior to play especially on REDBOX rentals.

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Because Oppo recommend using a cleaner, I ordered this



Found it new on eBay for $12.90 which includes shipping. That beats Best Buy's $19.99 plus tax.

For $12.90 and Oppo's recommendation, I decided to give it a try.

It will probably make my 1080p set look like a 4K, don't you think????




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It will probably make my 1080p set look like a 4K, don't you think????
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^^^ Yep it sure will if you imagine that it will !!! LOL....

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Unless you are having a problem with your player, I cannot imagine why you want to mess with it.

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Interesting topic that I thought I'd NEVER see being discussed by others as I thought I was the only nut who went out and purchased a "Blu-ray Disc Laser Lens Cleaner" (well, waited for one to arrive via Amazon)...

I actually bought the Maxell brushless "wind funnel" disc system as seen here:











and use it every time I run a "system diagnostic" check on my entire setup (every few weeks to ensure all settings are right, etc.) which includes an OPPO BDP-83. Interestingly, OPPO themselves told me something different from what the other member in here posted -- they told me they don't have any experience doing long-term testing with these cleaning kits but didn't recommend them unless discs were beginning to get stuck, frozen, etc...

At any rate, I figured this system was best for blowing dirt off the lens assembly because it uses no brushes or chemicals; the spinning supposedly creates an "air shower" through air holes in the disc that "blow away the dirt without scratching the delicate lens" (according to the ridiculously cheesy female narration on the disc)...
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That is what I also use. With the dust around here, and who knows what dust comes on the Netflix discs, I end up cleaning the drives about every six to eight weeks when things start stuttering, and the no-touch wind cleaning is one I figure is relatively harmless.

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Interesting topic that I thought I'd NEVER see being discussed by others as I thought I was the only nut who went out and purchased a "Blu-ray Disc Laser Lens Cleaner" (well, waited for one to arrive via Amazon)...

I actually bought the Maxell brushless "wind funnel" disc system as seen here:











and use it every time I run a "system diagnostic" check on my entire setup (every few weeks to ensure all settings are right, etc.) which includes an OPPO BDP-83. Interestingly, OPPO themselves told me something different from what the other member in here posted -- they told me they don't have any experience doing long-term testing with these cleaning kits but didn't recommend them unless discs were beginning to get stuck, frozen, etc...

At any rate, I figured this system was best for blowing dirt off the lens assembly because it uses no brushes or chemicals; the spinning supposedly creates an "air shower" through air holes in the disc that "blow away the dirt without scratching the delicate lens" (according to the ridiculously cheesy female narration on the disc)...
I actually bought one when it first came out around 2007. Used it a few times on my several players, but quite frankly I never knew if it was really working.

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That is what I also use. With the dust around here, and who knows what dust comes on the Netflix discs, I end up cleaning the drives about every six to eight weeks when things start stuttering, and the no-touch wind cleaning is one I figure is relatively harmless.

I TOTALLY hear you on the rental discs, Mark -- while we don't get our rentals from Netflix and instead from Redbox, most of the standard DVDs at least are HORRENDOUSLY scratched and damaged, like some idiot let their two-year-old play Frisbee with it while the dog took a couple of chunks as an "optical disc appetizer"...


I can't tell you how many times I had to stop a rental, pop it out of the player and either use a touch of Windex or water on the playback surface because they would just freeze and block up in the player...NOTHING more annoying...
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I actually bought one when it first came out around 2007. Used it a few times on my several players, but quite frankly I never knew if it was really working.

I hear you Muner...


Interestingly enough, someone on Blu-ray.com told me that when the cleaning process on this Maxell disc runs, it actually somehow, someway "cleans out" your equipment's DACs -- I KNOW how ridiculous that sounds, but he swore by it and also said that's the reason the chick in the narration voiceover says you should "ADJUST THE VOLUME TO THE NORMAL RANGE" when the cleaning begins...




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I hear you Muner...


Interestingly enough, someone on Blu-ray.com told me that when the cleaning process on this Maxell disc runs, it actually somehow, someway "cleans out" your equipment's DACs -- I KNOW how ridiculous that sounds, but he swore by it and also said that's the reason the chick in the narration voiceover says you should "ADJUST THE VOLUME TO THE NORMAL RANGE" when the cleaning begins...




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Lol, funniest thing I heard today

I found it hysterical too and asked him to explain, but he refused based on what he called "getting ganged up on" for his comments back then...
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I bought and used a Blu-Ray lens cleaner off Amazon and did its job on my Pioneer BDP-51FD. The player wasn't able to play the majority of my blu-rays and it now plays every single one of them.

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I bought and used a Blu-Ray lens cleaner off Amazon and did its job on my Pioneer BDP-51FD. The player wasn't able to play the majority of my blu-rays and it now plays every single one of them.

What kind was it, LJ?


It's weird that when players won't read discs and one of these "cleaners" are run through them that they actually begin playing them again....it's like, what went wrong? Was there just a buildup of residue on the laser?
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What kind was it, LJ?


It's weird that when players won't read discs and one of these "cleaners" are run through them that they actually begin playing them again....it's like, what went wrong? Was there just a buildup of residue on the laser?
It was this one. http://amazon.com/Endust-262000-...y+lens+cleaner

I ran the disc twice just in case. Popped in End of Watch Blu-Ray (a disc it would never play), and it recognized it right away. I honestly didn't believe for a second that this lens cleaner was going to work but it proved me wrong.

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It was this one. http://amazon.com/Endust-262000-...y+lens+cleaner

I ran the disc twice just in case. Popped in End of Watch Blu-Ray (a disc it would never play), and it recognized it right away. I honestly didn't believe for a second that this lens cleaner was going to work but it proved me wrong.

Wow...learn something new every day...I didn't even know Endust MADE a Blu-ray player lens cleaner...


Love their stuff for cleaning/polishing wood though; use it on my entertainment center and Polk RTi12s and they gleam like gold...


It's so weird though that by running this cleaner through your system -- and I'm happy for you that it DID work -- suddenly "unreadable" discs would start to play...I wonder why this is and what the cleaner is actually "doing" to make it happen...
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It's so weird though that by running this cleaner through your system -- and I'm happy for you that it DID work -- suddenly "unreadable" discs would start to play...I wonder why this is and what the cleaner is actually "doing" to make it happen...
Most of us normal people have dust in our houses, and no matter how much one cleans and vacuums, there are still bits of dust that settle on and in devices, including on top of the lens for the Blu-ray players. Some of that dust can be introduced from discs placed in the players.

Get enough dust on the lens and the player can't read the disc because the dust is in the way. Remove the dust (e.g., by a disc that create wind vortices, or brushes that gently wipe the lens, or by using compressed air) allows the blue laser light to make it to the disc surface, where either the light can penetrate the surface and read the spots, or debris on the surface blocks the laser light from reading the spots. That's why when I start having issues reading a disc I'll clean both the player (with a disc that generate little wind vortices) and the disc at the same time.

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Fair enough, Mark...


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And are you sayin' I ain't normal!?
No. You might be one of those who are outside of "most of us normal people" who have dust that accumulate on and inside our equipment and yet be normal.

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If that BDP-51FD is like my BDP-05FD it has a case fan. If air is coming into the unit, dust is probably coming with it. I tried a cleaner on mine and it didn't work, maybe the cheap wal-mart one is junk it only had three little brushes to swipe at the lens. I opened the player and cleaned the lens directly with a q-tip and 91% isopropyl alcahol and it now plays everything I've put in it.
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No. You might be one of those who are outside of "most of us normal people" who have dust that accumulate on and inside our equipment and yet be normal.



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If that BDP-51FD is like my BDP-05FD it has a case fan. If air is coming into the unit, dust is probably coming with it. I tried a cleaner on mine and it didn't work, maybe the cheap wal-mart one is junk it only had three little brushes to swipe at the lens. I opened the player and cleaned the lens directly with a q-tip and 91% isopropyl alcahol and it now plays everything I've put in it.
Now you have me worried that the "brushless air system" I'm using from Maxell may be making things WORSE...
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Now you have me worried that the "brushless air system" I'm using from Maxell may be making things WORSE...
I tried air from my compressor and blew out the opened case and into the open drawer and mine still wouldn't work on half my discs. Thats when I accessed the laser and wiped it down. Could have been a film on it or something more than dust ? Accessing the laser on this one was surprisingly simple, five minute job. All I can say is the five dollar wal-mart one didn't do anything for me. I don't remember the brand because I tossed it.
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I tried air from my compressor and blew out the opened case and into the open drawer and mine still wouldn't work on half my discs. Thats when I accessed the laser and wiped it down. Could have been a film on it or something more than dust ? Accessing the laser on this one was surprisingly simple, five minute job. All I can say is the five dollar wal-mart one didn't do anything for me. I don't remember the brand because I tossed it.
Before I bought the lens cleaner, I too blew compressed air into the player though that didn't help.

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I realize this is an old thread, but I expect it is still a worthwhile topic. . .
I always clean rental discs from anyone (I use Redbox these days) before inflicting them on my player. If they still hiccup, I complain to Redbox and they always credit my account with a free rental and remove the offending disc from their system (so they tell me anyway).
I do not clean the inside or laser assembly in my players on a regular basis. I HAVE cleaned 1 or 2 when problems began to develop. I use denatured alcohol, q-tips and a steady hand with TLC on my equipment.
I had a Panasonic DMP-BD55 that was making nasty noises and stuttering on discs. I opened it up, accessed and opened up the optical drive case, cleaned everything with the denatured alcohol on a q-tip, lubricated the rails the laser assembly rides on, and buttoned it back up. It has worked fine ever since.

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I'm using the Allsop Ultra Pro Lens Cleaner, I figure if anyone makes a good cleaner, it's Allsop:
http://allsop.com/cleaning-/ultra-pro-lens-cleaner

In any case, it never worked for me as the manual physical method is always the best using 91-99% Isopropyl Alcohol. Compressed Air is not really strong enough as I have my MetroVac's which has both a blower and a vacuum that is way stronger and works. I have a bigger issue than dust is that the current house I live in for the past 7 years have killed off it's share of lenses in DVD, CD players due to the high levels of moisture.

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I always clean rental discs from anyone (I use Redbox these days) before inflicting them on my player.
I always inspect rental discs, both to make sure the correct disc is in the sleeve and for condition of the disc. If obvious crack through the data surface, if it is from Netflix, I'll get on the Netflix web site and report physical damage and not play the disc. But if the disc appears structurally ok (at least on the data surface) but is dirty or has spots (could happen when mailer is exposed to the rain), I'll clean the disc. I usually do this when the disc arrives, so if there is physical damage, I can get a replacement scheduled as soon as possible.

If the disc fails to play, then I'll clean the disc and use a cleaning disc in the player.

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Funny this topic had resurrected; just last night I performed a complete system diagnostic check to ensure all settings were correct in the display, AVR and BD player, and used my Maxell brushless "air funnel" laser lens cleaner on the Oppo BDP-83...


I am going to look into that Allsop a little closer, as I believe I have one of their "Carbon Edge Pro" DVD laser lens cleaners...


EDIT: I actually have a different version of that Allsop cleaner, which looks like this:


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Seems like the one you have will work only on DVD and Blu-Ray while the one I have works on anything that is on a disc platform, with the exception of LD's.

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Seems like the one you have will work only on DVD and Blu-Ray while the one I have works on anything that is on a disc platform, with the exception of LD's.

I think the one I have will work in a CD player also (not 100-percent positive)...
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