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They are from China. It doesn't take much to overstress a 100 watt amp with a subwoofer. You played them too loud. You chose the wrong product for the purpose.
BIC products are all designed and engineered in America in 1973.
I play my stuff at moderate levels.

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BIC products are all designed and engineered in America in 1973.
I play my stuff at moderate levels.

Shows what you know smart one.
Designed and engineered I dont doubt. But most American electronics companies buy their parts from overseas and assemble the product here. If you dig deep enough you would probably find that almost nothing in the Bic products is made in America.
Rhythmik is a American company and even their cabinets are made in China.

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Designed and engineered I dont doubt. But most American electronics companies buy their parts from overseas and assemble the product here. If you dig deep enough you would probably find that almost nothing in the Bic products is made in America.
Rhythmik is a American company and even their cabinets are made in China.
Point of the matter is they are from America in which I stated

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Ya I've owned F12's one broke down in 3 months had to go through hell to get sent another one. 2nd one died after 1 year.
They are from America, I would have hoped they'd actually build better products than this.
Absolutely hate that company!
I bought one years ago, still have it, still love it, for my theatre viewing as well as music. Maybe you people just don't know how to set it up properly or you drive it past clipping, at which point it doesn't matter which sub you buy, you clip it long enough, it dies. Of course a $1,000 sub wouldn't need to be driven as hard as the F12 but I've cranked the crap out of mine many times, music and movies and no problems. Very happy with it never any issues, more than I can say for some of you!
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Had mine for many years. It's been kind to me but I can't say the same for me to it. Audessy has me running it with the gain at about 2 and it will hang with me as loud and as hard as I can push it. I will forever recommend the f12 as THE best budget sub one can buy. Of course, YMMV.
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Very happy with it never any issues, more than I can say for some of you!
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Their subs are not good, If you make it past 5 years with one I'd be really shocked and amazed!

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Their subs are not good, If you make it past 5 years with one I'd be really shocked and amazed!
Omg. U don't like the sub. We get it already. Geez.
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Omg. U don't like the sub. We get it already. Geez.
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Ya I've owned F12's one broke down in 3 months had to go through hell to get sent another one. 2nd one died after 1 year.
They are from America, I would have hoped they'd actually build better products than this.
Absolutely hate that company!
Hmmm? In July 2014 u ask if this is a good sub... /forum/113-subwoofers-bass-transducers/1622146-bic-f12-crossover-advice.html#post26155554

Now u say u have owned 2?
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I bought one years ago, still have it, still love it, for my theatre viewing as well as music. Maybe you people just don't know how to set it up properly or you drive it past clipping, at which point it doesn't matter which sub you buy, you clip it long enough, it dies. Of course a $1,000 sub wouldn't need to be driven as hard as the F12 but I've cranked the crap out of mine many times, music and movies and no problems. Very happy with it never any issues, more than I can say for some of you!
I ran an F12 for two years in my setup and drove it pretty hard. I never had an issue with it and thought that it was a very solid budget subwoofer. My F12 is in my Dad's system now and continues to run strong.
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Great sub for what it is: budget product for use in smaller rooms played at moderate levels. Been running mine daily and have had no problems at all.

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i got two f12's and don't see myself ever replacing them. they do just fine.

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Curious what others have the gain set at on their F12's? I have mine set at 4 gain on the subwoofers and -9db in the receiver. I've seen others have the gain set at 1-2 and the receiver at -1db or 0db. Might play around with it to see which sounds better. Thanks.
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Curious what others have the gain set at on their F12's? I have mine set at 4 gain on the subwoofers and -9db in the receiver. I've seen others have the gain set at 1-2 and the receiver at -1db or 0db. Might play around with it to see which sounds better. Thanks.
Mine too is pretty low...probably around 2 (I'm not home right now to verify exactly). When I run audessy I adust the gain to get as close to 0db as possible then bump it up +3db in the AVR afterwards. At first I thought this would be too low as well but we have to remember, gain is not volume and when the source material calls for it my F12 answers with thunderous bass even at very low gain settings. You're right though, what sounds best to YOU is what's most important!
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Played around with the gain and offset and I've set the gain on the subwoofers to 2 and the offset on the receiver to -1db. Bass seems a bit punchier and tighter from what I've listened to so far.
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My gain is set at about the 9 o'clock position, Audyssey set the AVR to 0 dB.

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I have owned many subs including SVS and PSA monsters. I have also owned some budget subs including the dayton 1200 and this Bic F12. While it doesn't hold a candle to the SVS/PSA subs I have owned, I continue to be very impressed with how low, deep and excellent sounding the bottom end is with the F12. In it's price range I don't think it has competition frankly....

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Anyone by chance have a pdf of the users manual?


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I don't own an F12 (I have SVS plus, and ultra series 12" cylinder subs) but a friend of mine who recently has started to put a small HT together bought one and asked if I could help him set it up. I was blown away by how good it sounded. It seemed to have ample power and went low enough to feel it in your chair. Now it doesn't have the pure muscle to down under 25hz with authority like my SVS's but for the price (I think he paid $180) it has no equal that I'm aware of.
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Tried Google?

Didn't initially find it on Google but not a lot of time was spent looking for it. Since I was reviewing the thread, I thought I would ask.
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Well, silly me. 10 mins of searching indicates they don't provide PDF manuals. Pfft. If they do, they're well hidden.

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I don't own an F12 (I have SVS plus, and ultra series 12" cylinder subs) but a friend of mine who recently has started to put a small HT together bought one and asked if I could help him set it up. I was blown away by how good it sounded. It seemed to have ample power and went low enough to feel it in your chair. Now it doesn't have the pure muscle to down under 25hz with authority like my SVS's but for the price (I think he paid $180) it has no equal that I'm aware of.
I also have an SVS, PB12+ for the home theater. Outstanding sub, best I've ever heard. I also have the BIC F12 for the living room tv, and for the money (paid $180.00) it's not too bad. It's used daily for the past 2 1/2 years for tv watching only. An equal, or maybe better to the BIC may be The Pioneer SW-8MK2 Andrew Jones Designed 100-Watt Powered Subwoofer. It's only 8 inches, and so far it does very, very good for my home office 2.1 set up for audio only. It blends in well with my 30 year old Advent Legacy speakers. Just got the Pioneer sub 2 weeks ago, and for music, it's great for my office. Obviously, it can't compair what my SVS does for home theater, but for a smaller home theater, I think the Pioneer would do great, even though it's an 8 inch. Oh, and paid $106.99


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I could scan mine and e-mail it to you if that would help. Send me your e-mail address by pm and I'll see what I can do.
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Took the plunge and ordered the F12. Got it on Friday and am pleased with the performance so far. Nice sub
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Took the plunge and ordered the F12. Got it on Friday and am pleased with the performance so far. Nice sub
I need a sub and I keep going back to the F12 because I really don't like the glossy stuff on the PL-200. I know the F12 isn't as articulate or fancy as some near $400-500 subs but the wife will move me out if I drop the coin for an SVS.

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I need a sub and I keep going back to the F12 because I really don't like the glossy stuff on the PL-200. I know the F12 isn't as articulate or fancy as some near $400-500 subs but the wife will move me out if I drop the coin for an SVS.

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Same here with the wife. She was more receptive to the price of the F12 though. So far, it is performing well.
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Same here with the wife. She was more receptive to the price of the F12 though. So far, it is performing well.
Nice! I could maybe squeak out a PL-200 if I was lucky.

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