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Best Floorstanding Speaker $1000

What floor standing speaker would you buy with a budget of $1000. It would be a music only system, with a sub maybe added down the road. Although, I would like to get away without using a subwoofer.
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What floor standing speaker would you buy with a budget of $1000. It would be a music only system, with a sub maybe added down the road. Although, I would like to get away without using a subwoofer.
These are on sale today and would be hard to beat for the price. I just picked up a set of the 580's.

JBL Studio 580 http://jbl.com/loudspeakers/STUD...80_color=Black

JBL Studio 590 http://jbl.com/loudspeakers/STUD...90_color=Black
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What floor standing speaker would you buy with a budget of $1000. It would be a music only system, with a sub maybe added down the road. Although, I would like to get away without using a subwoofer.
I'd strongly consider the Paradigm Studio 100 v2s currently listed on Audiogon for $999.

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The used market would be a good place to look. You can sometimes find older high quality speakers at very reasonable prices. The Paradigm's eljay referenced would be a good place to start.

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These are on sale today and would be hard to beat for the price. I just picked up a set of the 580's.

JBL Studio 580 http://jbl.com/loudspeakers/STUD...80_color=Black

JBL Studio 590 http://jbl.com/loudspeakers/STUD...90_color=Black
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Per pair or each? I guess budget is total budget so 500 each. Tough question, it depends on what you like and how much you have for the rest of the system. I like the Magnepan MMG or .7 if you have the room and the power to drive them.

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These are on sale today and would be hard to beat for the price. I just picked up a set of the 580's.



JBL Studio 580 http://jbl.com/loudspeakers/STUD...80_color=Black



JBL Studio 590 http://jbl.com/loudspeakers/STUD...90_color=Black

The 590s would be hard to beat at that price.


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Per pair or each? I guess budget is total budget so 500 each. Tough question, it depends on what you like and how much you have for the rest of the system. I like the Magnepan MMG or .7 if you have the room and the power to drive them.



$1000 for the pair. There is a speaker made by Elac, a floor stander that retails for $499 each, that is getting great reviews. The only downside is it is made of MDF board, wrapped in some cheap vinyl.
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$1000 for the pair. There is a speaker made by Elac, a floor stander that retails for $499 each, that is getting great reviews. The only downside is it is made of MDF board, wrapped in some cheap vinyl.

MDF is a very good choice for speaker cabinets because it's very dense and keeps its shape well. You likely aren't going to find many $500 speakers that feature real wood veneer, it's just not practical given the price point. That said there are some very sharp looking speakers in this price range.

Take a look at the RBH R55Ti, I doubt there is anything as nice looking for the money and they happen to sound fantastic too.


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The used market would be a good place to look. You can sometimes find older high quality speakers at very reasonable prices. The Paradigm's eljay referenced would be a good place to start.

That would probably give me the most speaker for my dollar. But there would be no 30 day audition period, that you get with Amazon and other internet direct companies. I would have to rely on reviews.
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...The only downside is it is made of MDF board, wrapped in some cheap vinyl.
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...You likely aren't going to find many $500 speakers that feature real wood veneer, it's just not practical given the price point...
At your price point, you are better off getting some speaker performance for your money rather than a wood cabinet that is going to increase cost with no sonic benefit.
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That would probably give me the most speaker for my dollar. ... I would have to rely on reviews.
If you shopped local used-goods sites / classifieds and demo'd gear that's available in your area, you could rely on your ears. If they like what they hear and the price is right, you're set.
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That would probably give me the most speaker for my dollar. But there would be no 30 day audition period, that you get with Amazon and other internet direct companies. I would have to rely on reviews.
You could order from Best Buy and return if not happy the RP Klipsch which have gotten unprecedented positive feedback from online-shashki members who've auditioned them; excellent pro reviews too.

The RP250s are $750/pair and play down to a claimed 35hz which would negate the need for a sub for music. Available in 2 finishes.

The RP260s are $1000/pair but only play down to 34hz which makes the 250s a no brainer.

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Buy used. Get something like definitive. I just got bp7002, clr2500, bpx. Got all five for $600. Look on Craigslist or eBay. For $1000 you could get a pair of bp7001 or bp2000tl.

Much better than most. The 7001 are as good or better than kef r900 or paradigm studio 100 v5.

Look at definitive. Energy rc. Infinity kappa. Or older jbl l890. Much better than new jbl 580 or 590.
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My links to Crutchfield are not working, but

Klipsch RP260 (worth it over the RP250)

Polk RTi7

Polk S60- the S series has been getting good owner reviews.

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Crutchfield has a 60 day trial period. Return shipping is discounted.
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My links to Crutchfield are not working,
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My links to Crutchfield are not working, but

Klipsch RP260 (worth it over the RP250)
Specs almost identical, tweeter is identical so not sure why the 260s, especially if a sub is in the mix, would be worth it to be honest.

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With your situation of wanting to NOT have a sub...I'd say the JBL studio 580 (or 590 if you can swing it)

OR

Klipsch RP-280F (open box on Ebay from SoundDistributors). Their 'open box' items are perfect and a big discount. Same warranty and authorized retailer. Pairs go for $800/pr


Reviewer on Youtube that has heard MANY speakers (Ascend sierra 1 and 2, svs ultra, klipsch rp-160, jbl studio 530, etc etc) was very impressed with both of these lines. He mentioned they sounded very similar actually. To my ear it's not the Klipsch of old.
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Specs almost identical, tweeter is identical so not sure why the 260s, especially if a sub is in the mix, would be worth it to be honest.
The overall design and size is nearly identical to the previous Reference II line. I had the RF52s first and then the RF62s. There is a very large difference in size of the cabinet and and horn size. The 62s had a noticeable advantage in bass despite the specs being nearly identical.

The 62/260 is the sweet spot in the klipsch line, always has been. The difference between the 5 series and 6 series is quite large as I've indicated. The difference between the 6 series and the 8 series is much less.

Initially the OP will NOT be using a sub.
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The overall design and size is nearly identical to the previous Reference II line. I had the RF52s first and then the RF62s. There is a very large difference in size of the cabinet and and horn size. The 62s had a noticeable advantage in bass despite the specs being nearly identical.

The 62/260 is the sweet spot in the klipsch line, always has been. The difference between the 5 series and 6 series is quite large as I've indicated. The difference between the 6 series and the 8 series is much less.

Initially the OP will NOT be using a sub.
IDK, identical tweeters in the 250/260/280.

Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-250F Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-260F Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-280F
Power Range 125 125 150
Frequency Response 35-25k Hz 34-25k Hz 32-25k Hz
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That would probably give me the most speaker for my dollar. But there would be no 30 day audition period, that you get with Amazon and other internet direct companies. I would have to rely on reviews.
I think you might need to investigate carefully before investing in something you assume is returnable. If you are relying on a manufacturer's return policy just keep in mind it may not be binding on an authorized reseller, and an unauthorized reseller on Amazon probably also voids the warranty regardless if the item is new or not.

For example, SVS has a no-risk trial period including free shipping both ways, but Amazon probably will not honor it, particularly if the packaging is open and/or the cabinet finish is damaged. Things may have changed but some online-shashki Forum participants have already taken note of issues with returns.

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IDK, identical tweeters in the 250/260/280.

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Frequency Response 35-25k Hz 34-25k Hz 32-25k Hz
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You seem to not be reading what is written, so I'll type nice and slow for you.

Yes they share the same 1" titanium linear suspension tweeter, as do all the previous Reference I and II line as well as all the current RP line.

The horn size is different. The horn size increases as the size of the woofers do. As does the cabinet size/volume.

The 5 series is much, smaller than the 6 series ( in person).

And like I said, the performance difference in room was quite noticeable regardless of what specs Klipsch assigns to them. The difference in bass output was substantial.
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You seem to not be reading what is written, so I'll type nice and slow for you.

Yes they share the same 1" titanium linear suspension tweeter, as do all the previous Reference I and II line as well as all the current RP line.

The horn size is different. The horn size increases as the size of the woofers do. As does the cabinet size/volume.

The 5 series is much, smaller than the 6 series ( in person).

And like I said, the performance difference in room was quite noticeable regardless of what specs Klipsch assigns to them. The difference in bass output was substantial.
Guy in the LCR thread just returned RP160 bookshelves for RP280s so that is a thread for the OP to monitor as he's still trying to figure out the difference sonically in his x.2 setup.

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As posted look at the Studio 590 or the Studio 580

Nice review of the 590 here -- and with measurements
http://i.nextmedia.com.au/avhub/aust...ers-review.pdf

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As posted look at the Studio 590 or the Studio 580

Nice review of the 590 here -- and with measurements
http://i.nextmedia.com.au/avhub/aust...ers-review.pdf
I had ordered the 580's this morning and within an hour decided to call in and see if I could change my order to the 590's. JBL customer service was able to cancel my first order and get me the 590's. By calling in on the phone they were able to give me an extra 10% off the already sale price for the 590's by bundling since they are sold as singles. JBL customer service is Goooood!
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At your price point, you are better off getting some speaker performance for your money rather than a wood cabinet that is going to increase cost with no sonic benefit.
You have made a valid point Russ. But I would much rather have the black ash or black oak type finishes that are used in SVS subs and speakers. That black vinyl looks so cheap on the Elac speaker.
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Indeed, if you can actually get them, the JBL Studio 590 would be next to impossible to beat for that price. Though whether they are actually available id debatable. The JBL 590 have 2x8" bass driver. Though the JBL 560 are available and have 2x6.5" bass drivers .



Though I would not say NO to -

Wharfedale Diamond 10.7 ($700/pr) -

https://musicdirect.com/speakers...er-speakers-pr

Or the Newer Diamond 240 ($999/pr) -

https://musicdirect.com/speakers...tower-speakers

Both the above are 2x6.5" Bass Drivers. A very sweet smooth mellow low fatigue speakers.

If you want some DEMO speakers, then you can get the Newer Diamond 250 (2x8") for $999/pr -

https://musicdirect.com/speakers...250-Black-DEMO

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You have made a valid point Russ. But I would much rather have the black ash or black oak type finishes that are used in SVS subs and speakers. That black vinyl looks so cheap on the Elac speaker.
I feel you.

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I have the same problem
online-shashki Forum uses a re-director, a link re-director, but the re-director links to another re-director that fails more often than not.

If you hover over a given link, then right-click, and select Save Link Location, then paste the link in a new Window or Tab, and the link will work.

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Take a look at Audiogon. Look at speakers in the $1000 price range, I am sure there will be a multitude of options, and keep in mind these are just listings, you can usually negotiate the price down a bit with the seller, or ask for the seller to pay shipping, etc. I have found some really good deals over the years including my PSB Synchrony center channel and bookshelf speakers.

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