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The Best Surge Protector

No audio/video system is complete without a good surge protector, especially if you live in an area prone to lightning and other sources of power surges. Our friends at The Wirecutter have done extensive research into these essential peripherals, and we are happy to present their picks for the best surge projectors on the market today for various applications. Also included is a section on how surge protectors work, how the units were tested, the results of objective measurements, and much more. If you value your AV gear—and who among us doesn't?—be sure to check it out!

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Great read--- I just add the tripplet single to the plug for both my Re-fridge and dishwasher..... because of all eh electronic in them..........
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The best way to take care of surge protection is to go the whole house approach and have one installed on your panel, that will prevent surges from entering your home. The first line of defense. After that, use individual surfer protection of the type described in the article as well. But, don't forget to install one on your panel.
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is there any conceivable reason why you wouldn't want to use a high powered sub amp with a surge protector?
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Nice testing,

I've been using Isobars for the past 30 years and they work well. I'll be picking up another one when I purchase a new AVR next month--the old one goes to my wife's stuff. Priorities!

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Nice read! Thanks.

A review of whole house protectors would be great!

Rack mount surge protectors would be a great review too!

I went looking and here's what I found at Wirecutter, http://thewirecutter.com/?s=surge

Yep, and what they said about insurance! I have a special rider on my homeowners insurance for my HT and photo equipment. I've had one claim (dropped an expensive camera lens). The special rider made the claim smooth as can be with $0 deductible.

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The best surge protector is the one that has lifetime warranty for anything connected at full value.

The day my £50 Belkin surge protector blows (unlikely) I get a free upgrade of my entire HT.
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Saying that a surge protector is best because it cuts off power once the surge protection wears off is kinda dumb. For certain situations, a surge protector like that can be appropriate. However, the chance of a surge which would damage your equipment is rather small. The recommended surge protector can create a huge inconvenience. Imagine if your whole-house surge protector (if you have one) decided that was a good feature. Would you still get it? If you could turn the auto-shutoff feature on or off, that would be fantastic, but if you can't, I think a light indicator is a better option for most situations.

Also, its 2017. A 2.1A USB charger doesn't really qualify for fast charging anymore (especially when its combined across multiple ports). Most new phones/devices (USB-C) require 3A to allow the fastest charging today, so saying that a 2.1A USB charger will allow fast charging can be misleading.

Other than that, is a pretty good article
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The best surge protector is the one that has lifetime warranty for anything connected at full value.

The day my £50 Belkin surge protector blows (unlikely) I get a free upgrade of my entire HT.
How does that actually work? I was about to post about most surge protectors carry warranties if your product is damaged and connected. Or is it one of those things where they are so many steps you have to follow that you are basically never getting coverage for your gear if something happens.
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Saying that a surge protector is best because it cuts off power once the surge protection wears off is kinda dumb.
True, because everyone always pays attention to a warning light...and the equipment still runs. For a strip, it makes sense to shut down because it demands attention when it happens. Think of it as a fuse, the last line of defense. It is better to be interupted because of an equipment killing surge shuts down the suppressor than have it run with a light. My power conditioner would click as it scaled the voltage issues and when power went nuts, it would do it many times. Surges act that way also, there can be a string of electrical problems down the line and if they are high enough to blow the protection, the next several surges will happily blow up your gear as that light glows.

How fast can you respond to a clip light on your amp? I bet not fast enough for it to only do it once! For this, they created the limiter for a reason so the strip shutting down would be the ultimate limiter.

For whole house protection, I would prefer a loud alarm since I don't make it a habit to hang out in the garage and check my breaker panel. It is much easier to replace a power strip over replacing your electronics so... just a thought.
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The best surge protector is the one that has lifetime warranty for anything connected at full value.

The day my £50 Belkin surge protector blows (unlikely) I get a free upgrade of my entire HT.


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Saying that a surge protector is best because it cuts off power once the surge protection wears off is kinda dumb. For certain situations, a surge protector like that can be appropriate. However, the chance of a surge which would damage your equipment is rather small. The recommended surge protector can create a huge inconvenience. Imagine if your whole-house surge protector (if you have one) decided that was a good feature. Would you still get it? If you could turn the auto-shutoff feature on or off, that would be fantastic, but if you can't, I think a light indicator is a better option for most situations.
I just bought one from amazon for <$19. Buy two so you can quickly swap one out if it stops working. I always have a spare one for such occasions.

As inconvenient as it may be, having your equipment break is far more inconvenient.

If you think the chances of having an equipment damaging surge is small, you must live in an area that doesn't get thunderstorms. I've lost several surge protectors due to nearby lightning strikes. Last summer I had a strike that produced something that looked like a lightning flash inside my entertainment center. Scared the crap out of me. Everything still worked, but I replaced the surge protector just in case.
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True, because everyone always pays attention to a warning light...and the equipment still runs. For a strip, it makes sense to shut down because it demands attention when it happens. Think of it as a fuse, the last line of defense. It is better to be interupted because of an equipment killing surge shuts down the suppressor than have it run with a light. My power conditioner would click as it scaled the voltage issues and when power went nuts, it would do it many times. Surges act that way also, there can be a string of electrical problems down the line and if they are high enough to blow the protection, the next several surges will happily blow up your gear as that light glows.

How fast can you respond to a clip light on your amp? I bet not fast enough for it to only do it once! For this, they created the limiter for a reason so the strip shutting down would be the ultimate limiter.

For whole house protection, I would prefer a loud alarm since I don't make it a habit to hang out in the garage and check my breaker panel. It is much easier to replace a power strip over replacing your electronics so... just a thought.
If the issue is that a light won't work for most people (I can agree w/ that in a lot of situations), then there are other options, such as sound. But shutting off all power is extreme. There are better options. Again, I don't disagree that there may be some pieces of equipment where that is desirable. But in most cases, it would be far more convenient to have a surge protector distribute power while properly notifying the owner that the surge protection is either failing or has failed.
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I just bought one from amazon for <$19. Buy two so you can quickly swap one out if it stops working. I always have a spare one for such occasions.

As inconvenient as it may be, having your equipment break is far more inconvenient.

If you think the chances of having an equipment damaging surge is small, you must live in an area that doesn't get thunderstorms. I've lost several surge protectors due to nearby lightning strikes. Last summer I had a strike that produced something that looked like a lightning flash inside my entertainment center. Scared the crap out of me. Everything still worked, but I replaced the surge protector just in case.
I'm curious. What surge protector do you have that can protect from a nearby lightning strike? I have never seen one. I've always assumed that was what insurance was for, and not surge protectors.
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I'm curious. What surge protector do you have that can protect from a nearby lightning strike? I have never seen one. I've always assumed that was what insurance was for, and not surge protectors.
I can't remember off the top of my head and I threw it out, but I think it was the belkin with the rotatable sockets on the side mentioned in the article.

Surge protectors generally do protect against lightning strikes. That's one of their primary purposes. But nothing will likely help if your electrical system takes a direct hit.
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I can understand the strategy of picking up a cheap surge protector and just replacing it as needed every couple years. I ended up going the polar opposite route of picking up the very best power conditioner/surge protector that I could afford, and I've never looked back. I've been using a Sound Application CF-X for approximately 10 years in my main system with excellent results. It retailed at a ridiculous $5K with the accompanying MacWire Delta power cord, but I was able to pick it up slightly used for just under $1K.

"The internal power distribution is via 4N (99.99% pure) 1/8-inch copper bus bars and 6N (99.9999% pure) copper wire. All internal wiring is point-to-point, and is rated at 100 amps. The unit can safely handle 6 kilowatts of power, well beyond the rating of a standard 15-amp circuit breaker. A custom high-speed magnetic circuit breaker provides an interrupt time of less than one millisecond for high-current transients - much faster than the thermal breakers commonly used in competing products. A bank of eight varistors follows for voltage spike suppression and protection. A 23-step stage filter bank of high-quality capacitors, mainly film and foil types, is used to provide a near-zero impedance pathway for both transverse and common mode noise. The primary emphasis, however, is on transverse mode EMI and RFI rejection. For effective filtering, it is necessary to cover the desired bandwidth with multiple capacitor sizes, as each capacitor's high-frequency self-resonance limits its upper range of applicability. Did I mention the several pounds of Cascade Audio dampening compound used internally, or that all soldering is performed in an inert argon gas environment to eliminate the formation of surface oxides?"

"All of this leads me to present the Sound Application CF-X as the perfect solution for the filtration of EM and RF noise (EMI and RFI). This filter uses no transformers or other current limiting devices. It is designed to provide an extremely low impedance capacitive shunt to ground for EM and RF energy over a bandwidth from 10 kHz to 2.5 GHz. That's an upper limit of 2.5 Gigahertz - clear out to the microwave range! I'm not aware of any competing models that can claim a bandwidth beyond the megahertz range. Noise reduction of up to -60 dB is claimed across this bandwidth."


Excerpts are from Dick Olsher's Review of the Sound Application CF-X for enjoythemusic.com.

Having said all that, I'm sure there are a lot of people that think such a product is complete snake oil. I would have been very curious to see how some of the higher end or state-of-the-art power products out there would compare objectively as surge and spike protectors compared to those mentioned in the article.

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The best way to take care of surge protection is to go the whole house approach and have one installed on your panel, that will prevent surges from entering your home. The first line of defense. After that, use individual surfer protection of the type described in the article as well. But, don't forget to install one on your panel.
would whole house surge protectors also have to be replaced over time?
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the problem with surge protectors is that they only work once and are fried, its the second surge that destroys all the equipment and the warranty from the surge protector reads "it worked the 1st time"

get home owners insurance for insurance, not a surge protector.

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This is the best read I have found regarding whole home (type 2) surge protectors: https://stevejenkins.com/blog/20...ge-protection/
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This thread has me thinking, my Panamax M-5300EX is probably at least 10 years old. Should I be looking at swapping it out for something like the Tripp Lite mentioned in this review? What if my Panamax lost its surge protection?

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I had the same question regarding my Sound Application power conditioner. I sent an email asking whether or not the spike/surge protection would still be active in my CF-X and received this reply from Jim Weil of Sound Application:

" Yes.What Sound Application used in the CF-X is an eleven plus stage circuit.
Surge control is the Best magnetic circuit breaker sold.
Following this are multiple RC networks that take the tip off of any type of voltage spike. Following this is massive bank of 10 varistors in a proprietary configuration that has "self protection" - my design. This is just the start. There are many more components that also act as spike protection.

Four SA units have had direct lightning strikes with Zero damage to Audio gear: at this point the varistor banks had to be replaced.
Other than the above, the SA protective circuit should last 50 years.

Regarding the surge protectors the article refers to, the answer is yes, no and maybe.

It depends on how the spike and or surge protective circuits are designed.
The traditional 'modern' technique uses the 49 cent approach with 1 varistor between hot and neutral or the $1.50 approach with 3 varistors in a 3 way bridge. These both sound awful, quickly wear out and cannot survive a lightning strike or protect your equipment in a meaningful sense. Older approaches use zener diodes or gas discharge tubes - both utterly worthless with the first being way too slow and the latter can only handle a tenth of a watt. Some manufacturers use a gas discharge tube due to it's price point (of one penny) and for advertising purposes."
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There is an international standard for surge testing IEC/EN 61000-4-5. How do these protection products fare against it? How do the consumer products standalone fare against it?
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the problem with surge protectors is that they only work once and are fried, its the second surge that destroys all the equipment and the warranty from the surge protector reads "it worked the 1st time"

get home owners insurance for insurance, not a surge protector.
It might be true.

Surge protectors are for shielding the gadgets from the voltage spike. The voltage spike may happen from the lightning strikes or because of the substantial wind. If you are not using any surge protectors, better to unplug the gadgets from the sockets during the lightning storm.

If the voltage of lightning is great the surge protectors won't be able to withstand their power. Once, our PC got damaged when the lightning struck though we had a surge protector. We haven't realized that our surge protector was not working. So we got another surge protection device from Barrie with indicators, that indicates whether it is working or not. Also, it is good to get one having UL rating.
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It might be true.

Surge protectors are for shielding the gadgets from the voltage spike. The voltage spike may happen from the lightning strikes or because of the substantial wind. If you are not using any surge protectors, better to unplug the gadgets from the sockets during the lightning storm.

If the voltage of lightning is great the surge protectors won't be able to withstand their power. Once, our PC got damaged when the lightning struck though we had a surge protector. We haven't realized that our surge protector was not working. So we got another surge protection device from Barrie with indicators, that indicates whether it is working or not. Also, it is good to get one having UL rating.
the best one i got so far is Tripp Lite tlp1008tel Surge Protection

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the problem with surge protectors is that they only work once and are fried, its the second surge that destroys all the equipment and the warranty from the surge protector reads "it worked the 1st time"

get home owners insurance for insurance, not a surge protector.
I am not sure how easy it would be to try and get paid through house insurance; most policies also have a deductible of at least $1000 to be affordable for people, the deductible on many policies are significantly higher than that. I am not sure I understand the logic of not investing in the relatively low cost for surge protectors and weighing that against eating the deductible portion of a policy, but to each their own....
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I can tell you, if you want the best technology out there, do a little research into Surge X. I'm a commercial integrator and some of the power nightmares I've seen would amaze you,. Hell, they shocked me (pun intended). We do a lot of work for the DOD, and a large amount of video walls. Just recently I was looking into spec'ing different product. I've since done a complete 180.
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