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Buying from Costco vs Amazon vs BestBuy

Thinking of getting the Samsung 65JS8500. Same price at Costco/Amazon/Bestbuy.
Which is the way to go?
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Was actually thinking about that same TV from those same 3 places!
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Costco has 90 days warranty and you can get the cheap square trade warranty right there and then + 1 extra year compared to other stores.

Amazon has 30 days

BB has 14 days unless you're a higher tier member.

http://costco.com/.product.11680336.html

Features: 2 Years Costco Concierge Plus 3 Years Extended Protection by SquareTrade = 5 Years Total for TVs purchased through Costco. Each plan covers 1 item only.

$ 89 for TV's $ 1000+
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No question go with Costco and you also get one wiothout that ugly silver bezel

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I've heard AV electronics from Costco, Sam's and Walmart have lower quality parts and materials thus enabling lower pricing. Maybe an 'old wife's tale' but I know for sure it is true for name brand power tools.
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I've heard AV electronics from Costco, Sam's and Walmart have lower quality parts and materials thus enabling lower pricing. Maybe an 'old wife's tale' but I know for sure it is true for name brand power tools.
I know that for most brands, other than Vizio, the wholesale stores will have models with different model#'s and I was under the impression this was just so they couldn't be price matched with other stores or vice versa. I do know that sometimes it will be the same model minus a feature, or two (i.e. same Samsung, but lacks 3D, fewer HDMI ports, etc.).

I didn't realize name brand products were lower quality, though.

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That said - we're "Elite Plus" members at Best Buy and have had a good experience, so far, with Magnolia Design Center (we've already had to exchange our Sony 850C once and are working on a second exchange).

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I've heard AV electronics from Costco, Sam's and Walmart have lower quality parts and materials thus enabling lower pricing. Maybe an 'old wife's tale' but I know for sure it is true for name brand power tools.
They may get special models that do this, but if the model #s are exactly the same, they should be equal.
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I've heard AV electronics from Costco, Sam's and Walmart have lower quality parts and materials thus enabling lower pricing. Maybe an 'old wife's tale' but I know for sure it is true for name brand power tools.
I have heard the same and usually stay away from Costco, Sam's and Walmart, would like to hear otherwise.

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I've heard AV electronics from Costco, Sam's and Walmart have lower quality parts and materials thus enabling lower pricing. Maybe an 'old wife's tale' but I know for sure it is true for name brand power tools.
That is indeed an old wives' tale. Sometimes DIFFERENT MODELS are sold at these stores that are indeed lower quality (I'm thinking of the Vizio D-series off the top of my head). But the same model numbers are shipped from the same factories and are the same products.

Usually Costco's prices aren't lower than the other stores. What makes them better is Costco's return policy. Of course each store will have their own sales at different times, so sometimes the prices are lower, yes.
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That is indeed an old wives' tale. Sometimes DIFFERENT MODELS are sold at these stores that are indeed lower quality (I'm thinking of the Vizio D-series off the top of my head). But the same model numbers are shipped from the same factories and are the same products.

Usually Costco's prices aren't lower than the other stores. What makes them better is Costco's return policy. Of course each store will have their own sales at different times, so sometimes the prices are lower, yes.

not to mention, everything in manufacturing has to do with LOWERING parts counts for economy of scale, etc... The less parts you need to source, the more efficient you can make your manufacturing runs...

not to mention, the simpler and cheaper it is to program your firmware/software for your sets. the cheaper it is to maintain (less versions required because each version of hardware will need it's own firmware, etc...)

If you really sit down and think about it, the cheapest thing to do would be to use the same parts for as many models as possible, vs introducing more part sku's.

oh yeah, don't forget the extra costs involved in developing and testing the sets with the "cheaper" parts... That part alone might not be worth the cost savings...

as stated above though... do they carry some models like the Vizio D series or others that are totally different sets? yep... but those are different model numbers altogether....
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Can you get better rewards from one place vs. another (like a store card)? I'd go with that.

Think with Best Buy their store card is 5% back...your first purchase is 10% back so that'd be $200 right there.
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In this case, the amazon 65JS8500 has a silver bezel, while the Costco one UN65JS850DFXZA has a black bezel. So, how are these the same TV with just different model numbers?
I would like to buy it from Costco if I can be assured that the bezel is the *ONLY* difference...
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It costs manufacturers way more money than it's worth to qualify a product with slightly lower quality components.

I've personally bought several tvs from costco. Latest was a 85" jvc. Their delivery is top notch and their warranty is dirt cheap. They will also come pickup the tv and repackage it for returns if I needed to. Try to get that with a normal store.

I've bought tv's online from Amazon too, but nothing recently. After they added sales tax I can usually find the same deals locally for large electronics. All the smaller stuff I wouldn't hesitate using amazon for though. And if for some reason I found a great deal on amazon for a tv, I'm sure I would still use them, but no way I would order a large tv online for anybody else (including best buy).

So in order it's Costco, and then Amazon or something local, but I wouldn't order a large tv from anywhere else. With all the panel lotteries and everything else, you run a good risk of having a big pain in the ass and restocking fee + return shipping charge if you are not careful. Now for my projectors and other electronics they carry, it's online-shashki all the way .
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They may get special models that do this, but if the model #s are exactly the same, they should be equal.
I understand that is true. It is when the supposed same product has a slight alteration in the model number.

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In this case, the amazon 65JS8500 has a silver bezel, while the Costco one UN65JS850DFXZA has a black bezel. So, how are these the same TV with just different model numbers?
I would like to buy it from Costco if I can be assured that the bezel is the *ONLY* difference...
That's the big question. Plus there is no one in the store who can positively answer your question.

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I've had good experiences from all three. BB's been great for taking advantage of the occasional sale. Same thing for Costco, but Costco has the cheap extended warranties and a good return policy. For jumbo TVs, Amazon's been fabulous for me. Super fast delivery that YOU can schedule and if you want to return it, they'll send somebody back out to pick it up. I live out in the sticks and they send a truck literally almost 400 miles to get to me as they make the rounds in the state. And they've been awesome. They have a couple of freight guys that ALL they do is deliver TVs for Amazon so in my experience they've been far more careful with the packages than UPS/FedEx normally prove to be. The Amazon deliver guys will even bring it in, unbox it, and plug it in to guarantee it works before they take off. Awesome service, fast delivery, and the price is right. This has been great for me since the nearest BB is a couple hundred miles away and the nearest Costco's an hour away. Don't know if Amazon ships TVs the same way for all regions, but that's how it's done here at least.
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Costco has 90 days warranty and you can get the cheap square trade warranty right there and then + 1 extra year compared to other stores.

Amazon has 30 days

BB has 14 days unless you're a higher tier member.

http://costco.com/.product.11680336.html

Features: 2 Years Costco Concierge Plus 3 Years Extended Protection by SquareTrade = 5 Years Total for TVs purchased through Costco. Each plan covers 1 item only.

$ 89 for TV's $ 1000+
Costco does not have a 90 day warranty. They have a 90 day return policy. That is a huge deal. 90 day return policy. That is three times longer than the next best. What's even better is that they double the factory warranty. That means two years instead of one year. So, doubles the factory warranty and has a 90 day return policy. This is beyond a big deal for an item as expensive as a TV. my first choice is always Costco for these reasons.
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It costs manufacturers way more money than it's worth to qualify a product with slightly lower quality components.

I've personally bought several tvs from costco. Latest was a 85" jvc. Their delivery is top notch and their warranty is dirt cheap. They will also come pickup the tv and repackage it for returns if I needed to. Try to get that with a normal store.

I've bought tv's online from Amazon too, but nothing recently. After they added sales tax I can usually find the same deals locally for large electronics. All the smaller stuff I wouldn't hesitate using amazon for though. And if for some reason I found a great deal on amazon for a tv, I'm sure I would still use them, but no way I would order a large tv online for anybody else (including best buy).

So in order it's Costco, and then Amazon or something local, but I wouldn't order a large tv from anywhere else. With all the panel lotteries and everything else, you run a good risk of having a big pain in the ass and restocking fee + return shipping charge if you are not careful. Now for my projectors and other electronics they carry, it's online-shashki all the way .
if you buy from Costco stores you can see the box. On the side of the box will be the model information including which panel it is. So you can make sure you get a Samsung panel.

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if you buy from Costco stores you can see the box. On the side of the box will be the model information including which panel it is. So you can make sure you get a Samsung panel.
I'm in Honolulu- i always buy from Costco if i can due to their return policy & warranty- (also they price match if their prices are reduced within reasonable time). Just wish they'd carry more of the higher end TVs- Their return policy is unbeatable & they honor their warranty-
In may 2013 i bought 70" Sony R550a TV from costco & the $99 square trade warranty- Costco adds 2nd yr to warranty & square trade covers yrs 3-5.
in May 2015 just b4 2nd yr costco warranty was up, my TV developed lots of pixalation in black pic areas & black bars on letterbox area was very noisy with red lines throughout- Called Costco, they had contractor out in 2 days, he verified issue sent email pics of issue to his main office- Costco called me to verify contractor had come out & later that day called to say TV was unrepairable- return it to Costco warehouse for full refund. Returned TV & received refund for TV & sq trade warranty- Can't beat that service.
I was looking at the 65JS8500 at costco in late 2015 to replace the 70" sony- went with SUV to buy at their $1980 price but they were sold out- Waited few weeks & decided to i didn't want to go down in size for my large living room- decided to go for top shelf sony 75x940C- Paid 3 times the price but i'm thrilled with the size & picture on the Sony- just wish costco carried these- Did buy the square trade warranty for the 940c from Costco for $90- covers can't beat that price for 3 yrs coverage on a $6k set. -
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Imo costco is the only way to go...i bought a samsung 620d in october...and i bought the sq. Trade warranty ..so in theory i have a 5yr tv.... we shall see...all that being said. ..i wouldn't get my feelings hurt if it fails anytime after the manufacturer warranty is done..the 2nd year costco warranty can end in a return for cash back...as can sq trade....
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In this case, the amazon 65JS8500 has a silver bezel, while the Costco one UN65JS850DFXZA has a black bezel. So, how are these the same TV with just different model numbers?
I would like to buy it from Costco if I can be assured that the bezel is the *ONLY* difference...

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That's the big question. Plus there is no one in the store who can positively answer your question.
The JS8500 and JS850D are different models though, and Samsung just lists the bezel as the only difference.

http://samsung.com/us/compare/#c...UN65JS850DFXZA

Boom.
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Costco does not have a 90 day warranty. They have a 90 day return policy. That is a huge deal. 90 day return policy. That is three times longer than the next best. What's even better is that they double the factory warranty. That means two years instead of one year. So, doubles the factory warranty and has a 90 day return policy. This is beyond a big deal for an item as expensive as a TV. my first choice is always Costco for these reasons.
Yeah sorry. That's what I meant. Thanks.

I'd go where the better deals are but their SqT warranty is cheap and has extra year if you buy from them.

The only notable sale I can remember was the UN48J5200 with free $ 180 wireless soundbar+sub for $ 460 around BF/Dec 2015.

I'd rather hunt for something like the JU6500 50 inch for $ 470 at Walmart then buy warranty from Costco but lose 1 extra year.

If money were less of an issue, I'd definitely just go to costco.
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In this case, the amazon 65JS8500 has a silver bezel, while the Costco one UN65JS850DFXZA has a black bezel. So, how are these the same TV with just different model numbers?
I would like to buy it from Costco if I can be assured that the bezel is the *ONLY* difference...

You can judge for yourself:

http://samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN65JS8500FXZA

http://samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN65JS850DFXZA

BTW: on Amazon, the "D" model (black bezel) is selling for USD ~2,400 (not USD ~2,000) delivered:

http://amazon.com/Samsung-Class-.../dp/B00XU7KFO6

And if the infamous panel lottery is in effect, Amazon wouldn't be of much help.

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In the 65" version, what are the panel codes to look for? Anything better over the other? And it is a VA panel, right?
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You can judge for yourself:

http://samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN65JS8500FXZA

http://samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN65JS850DFXZA

BTW: on Amazon, the "D" model (black bezel) is selling for USD ~2,400 (not USD ~2,000) delivered:

http://amazon.com/Samsung-Class-.../dp/B00XU7KFO6

And if the infamous panel lottery is in effect, Amazon wouldn't be of much help.
I found this here:
http://4k.com/tv/a-review-of-the-sam...ries-smart-tv/


"Definitely One of Samsung’s top 2015 SUHD TVs, the UN65JS850D is mainly distinguished from its nearest cousin THE JS8500 by the former model’s single screen size and the lack of several specialized smart TV features. The JS850D comes in only a single 64.5 inch size instead of the three different sizes available for the JS8500."

"However, a few less than ideal aspects to the JS850D are worth mentioning. First of all and worst of all, the TV doesn’t include some of the more advanced smart TV features of other SUHD models like the next-in-line JS8500. These specifically seem to consist of the S-Recommendation Engine and full web browser. This is an odd and unfortunate absence in an otherwise great Smart TV platform with Samsung’s Smart Hub software"
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Seriously??? Do you really think that Samsung, LG, Vizio etc are going to make a lower quality TV to sell at those places and use the same model number? Sure, every company wants to put out low quality stuff under their name so that they get bad comments on quality a reliability. It is really good for business. Sometimes a big box store will have an "exclusive" model with either unique or fewer features built for them at a price point, but if it is the same model number, it is the same set.
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Seriously??? Do you really think that Samsung, LG, Vizio etc are going to make a lower quality TV to sell at those places and use the same model number? Sure, every company wants to put out low quality stuff under their name so that they get bad comments on quality a reliability. It is really good for business. Sometimes a big box store will have an "exclusive" model with either unique or fewer features built for them at a price point, but if it is the same model number, it is the same set.
No, special grade units would have different model numbers. I agree with you. To validate your point Costco has LG's - 55" OLED 1080p Smart 3D HDTV Black Model: 55EG9100. Costco points out that the unit specifications are provided by LG.

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No, special grade units would have different model numbers. I agree with you. To validate your point Costco has LG's - 55" OLED 1080p Smart 3D HDTV Black Model: 55EG9100. Costco points out that the unit specifications are provided by LG.
personally, even though I've had a tv shipped from amazon with zero problem, and worked there too, I still like the idea of being able to physically ispect the item, etc and if you buy locally it's so much easier to take it back / return if need be.....
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